Interview with Dagga - 1st Place - Sativa Dominant Autoflower 2025

Silvia:

We’re here with the champions of the Autoflower World Cup 2025, where the finest autoflower genetics from around the globe battled it out for the top spots. After months of hard work, innovation, and passion, these winners have proven they’ve got what it takes to stand out in the world of autos.

First off - huge congratulations on your win, Sebastian and Fast Buds Team! Before we dive into the details of your winning strain, let’s start with a question that always sparks debate among growers:

Do you prefer growing autoflowers outdoors under the sun, or do you lean towards the control and consistency of indoor cultivation?

Chubbs: No, I do enjoy outdoor growing. I love indoor because you can control everything and I enjoy the outdoor because it's a challenge that you can't control. So it's more fun to test your limits of what you know, because you've to kind of let mother Earth do what she's going to do. 

Silvia: And are you happier with your indoor growth or with mother Nature’s help?

Chubbs: I like them both. Mother nature is always nice because it's cheaper. You don't use electricity for your lighting. Like indoor, that's what we're doing is trying to mimic the outdoor sun, so I enjoy both of them. Both of them have their own challenges and their own pros, so it's enjoyable. 

Silvia: Sebastian, do you have any favorites? 

Sebastian Good: I mean, in terms of growing, yeah. I think that outdoor growing is, yes, of course, more challenging, but the plants can potentially get much, much bigger than indoors. You'll have more variations in the cannabinoid profiles. I think there are also more variations in the terpene profiles because the UV, the intense sun, like we try to avoid certain temperatures and stuff indoors, we can sometimes outdoors. So I think that there is a place for both. 

Especially if everything is legal, I wish that a lot more people would try to do more outdoors or mix light outdoor/greenhouse where you use artificial light to help because down the line, we all want to use as little resources as possible. And of course, our electricity bill, even though we have efficient LEDs like those SANLight depending on how much of them you run, they still take a lot of electricity.

I mean, when we start with fear, in my opinion, I just got my Justice for Cannabis account taken down as the fourth account in two and a half weeks. I am done with Instagram for now. So if you want to find me, you'll find me on X at @Is420Somewhere. That's where you’ll find me right now because I speak up, I don't shut up. They took the Instagram. I immediately tried to make a new one that was two days later gone. Then I made another one, another day later that was gone. Then I made this Justice for Cannabis, that was good for maybe almost two weeks, now that one is gone. So we are not just fighting the legal battle with legalization. We're still fighting a battle with silencing, with censorship.

But to try to make it short because this topic could fill hours and hours and hours, one year ago, we got legal in my motherland in Germany, that was a huge step. That was a long process to get there. Of course, it's not fully legal, but they decided on making home growing legal. And if you listen to what I said after we won the cup for the best breeder, home growing is the key. Liberating people that they can grow this plant without having to fear being chased down, being incarcerated. That is what is the most important thing. And not the industry first, not the money-making part of it first, it's the people first. 

And we have a new government in Germany. The majority, way more than 50% of the popular vote of the parties want to take this law back. They want to make it illegal again. They want to lock us up again for this. I don't think that they will be able to stop us. They started something in Germany and it will spread. We won't even notice it like the age of Mila or Jorge or at Rosenthal, even 40 years from now it will still be an issue. It will keep on being an issue because there is not enough profit to make for pharma and for the really, really big ones in cannabis, so they will regulate it. But we are on the right path in Europe and even though some states and James, my buddy Chubbs can come now and talk a little bit more about the US, but even there, states like Ohio try to take plant count back and so on right now. 

So there is discussion, making it stricter in the US, but I don't think so. Even with the crazy new government, no matter if you like them or if you don't like them, you can lie to yourself that they're not doing wild, crazy shit. But even with that, I don't think they will go towards the plan because that's really not like their style, let's put it that way.

Chubbs: I have to agree with you brother, a hundred percent, and especially me being in a state where it is fully legal, but at the end of the day, it's still federally illegal. But thank God, I live in a state where it's fully medical. Everything I do is medical and it's like Sebastian said, I think you couldn't have hit that nail on the head any harder because it does start with the home grower. I started growing nine years ago for medical reasons for my son, and I could honestly say wholeheartedly it's changed his life for the better. 

I'm not against pharmaceutical meds, but again, when we talk about like the taxes on it -- I'm no expert on the matter, I'm just glad I live in a state where it is fully legal. I wish it was like that worldwide where people had that choice themselves as opposed to a government entity choosing that for them, as opposed to being able to open-mindedly -- If it's going to fix somebody and it fixes the issue that they have, any type of medical situation or any type of reason why they're taking it, I think they should have that option of growing their own plant, because that way you're not only more connected with the medication or the reason why you're doing it, you're a part of it. You know what I mean? 

So therefore, you know from start to finish, but at the end of day they can't tax that. So I think that at the end of the day this is the biggest concern from state to state, government to government, country to country. Once somebody or any entity, however you want to call it, can come up with a way of taxing it correctly to where it is beneficial, it'll never be beneficial if they make it legal for the small person, but at least it would make it available for that choice again to where someone could make it.

Just like alcohol in America, it went on prohibition for years, but they realized it wasn't going to go anywhere and people still wanted to drink. So at the end of the day, the home grower is still going to grow. The plant is still going to be here long before us and long after us. So why should someone be able to choose that for us? And that's my biggest thing. Like I said, my son has epilepsy. I started growing for that reason.

Sebastian Good: Yeah, [crosstalk – 00:07:57] because it’s an interesting story.

Chubbs: Thank God he's been free for eight years. It really made an impact, because just like any parent, like I was saying, you're going to do what's best for your child. You're going to try to make them happy and healthy and live the best possible life that you can. And again, I'm not against pharmaceutical meds. 

My son is autistic and epileptic, he was nonverbal until the age of five. So to understand that he's having seizures because they're not grandma seizures -- I'm not totally against the fact that pharmaceuticals are the way for you, then go that direction, but the choice is yours. Whereas, you know what, my wife and I made that decision to where, you know what, we think cannabis is the best route. The pharmaceuticals are getting to be not good for his body. Yeah, you're not having seizures, but internally, you're not healthy.

Whereas cannabis, there's not really bad that I can sit here and honestly say that, oh, if you smoke cannabis, you're going to get lazy or you're going to get this. No, that's also strain dependent and if you smoke a hard indica, of course, you're going to get a little more tired and couch locked, but I'm not going to sit here and say it's going to change you as a person. 

So for me, I really think if people were to open their eyes and look at it in a different direction as opposed to being narrow minded and focused on, oh, that's a drug and it's so bad, at the end of the day, no, it's a life-saving plant. I back it 100% and doing what we're doing, like Sebastian said, his Instagram keeps getting attacked and taken down over a plant, obviously someone or whether it be Instagram, they're threatened by what it can do, the healing powers, in my opinion. 

Sebastian Good: Chemicals, not all of them, but a lot of them, they kill you. That's what it is. They poison your body. You might have a chemical which helps you with one thing, but underlying, it fucking kills your body. That's what it does. And does cannabis kill? No. I mean, maybe if you smoke like a crazy person, you might still inhale carcinogens. No matter what smoke you inhale it can be carcinogenic. So we could like go all down that road why I'm vaping and not smoking and all that, but let's not do that because we're not talking about smoking. We’re talking about the plant and you can take the plant in so many different ways. 

I think you will talk to Dagga, too and Dagga will tell you about that too, what he did for his father. Down the line cannabis doesn't kill. It never kills anyone. Chemicals kill. End of story. That's that. Plain and simple.

Chubbs: I actually started growing autoflowers. I started growing 420 Fast Buds and have been loyal and exclusive pretty much this whole time. I've grown every strain Fast Buds has ever released and unreleased. I mean, I've tested every strain almost they've come out with. So for me…

Sebastian Good: It’s like already your journey started with Fast Buds. 

Chubbs: Yeah, my journey started with Fast Buds. 

Silvia: Wow, okay. Nice.

Chubbs: So that's why I back every strain they've ever produced because again, they are all medicinal in my opinion, and that's what they're there for. But yeah, I've smoked since I was a teenager, but growing, I just started growing nine years ago. Like I said, my son has epilepsy and autism and we decided we were going to go that route since his medication wasn't working and it's been an awesome journey. I mean, absolutely amazing. 

I've met legends and just people that I’ve read their books looking for information and learning how to grow when I first started and then to actually meet them in the community, and that's why I think it's going the way it is and so slow with the legalization is people are threatened by it. Because again, it's one stone at a time that people are going to put in front of them to pave the road. And then eventually when we look back, you're going to sit there and be like, wow, every person that stepped over a mountain or every person that climbed it, put in the work. I hope the respect is given and due because for me it is a life-saving plant and Fast Buds makes life-saving genetics in my opinion. 

Silvia: So that's one detail because I wanted to ask about the evolution of Fast Buds and the weight that they got in the autoflowers industry. And yeah, I wanted to ask you guys, what do you think set the bar so high with Fast Buds during their whole history?

Sebastian Good: I mean, it's time down the line. It's you do something and it needs its time. And even though autoflower breeding needs less time per cycle, but to get a plant to be an autoflower, a new variety, it needs at least three generations. And most often it's four or five generations before you come and like have a new idea of this photoperiod. I want to get from there to the new autoflower variety. I think dedication to the cause. 

I mean, we've released the fence now about a year ago, less than a year ago and we released the first fast flowers maybe a year and a half, two years ago, less than two years. So we dedicated first 12, 13 years in developing and keep on developing genetics. And you also have to know, especially with autoflowers, once you have a variety, that doesn't mean you stop there because the next batch is coming and that means it will be the next evolution and the next evolution and the next evolution. And if you keep on breeding for the right traits and for us, it's pretty simple, we want them to be yummy. We want to have good terps. We want to have powerful strains because that's what the customers are asking for.

In the name it's already Fast Buds and then of course, you need a certain amount of yield. So I think these are like the four main ingredients for us. And if you focus on what you're doing best, and I think that's what we have been doing for 15 years, then you come to a point where you can put the fire out over and over and over and over again if you stay dedicated to it. If you stop at one point, if you just feel like, oh, now I'm there -- Like we are trying new breeding techniques out all the time. That doesn't mean that always they're going to be in the next batch you get. Maybe you go a wrong lane down and then you have to accept, hey, this didn't work out, let's discard it—

Silvia: You do. Yeah. 

Sebastian Good: …and redo. Let's do something else or let's go back to what we have before because that was better and so on and so on. And I think that is a key ingredient to it. 

Silvia: Do you want to talk to us about some other new things coming up the Fast Buds way? Can you release this info?

Sebastian Good: Ooh, no, I'm going to get into trouble. Shall I get myself into some trouble here?

Silvia: It's Friday. 

Chubbs: Better you do it. 

Sebastian Good: So let's do it. Let's get into trouble. I mean, we've been doing autoflowers and we've been doing autoflowers for a long time. But of course, a lot of the people maybe who start autoflowers for the same reasons that we did grow autoflowers or a lot of people, because they're faster, then you don't have to worry about -- Like, for example, I have a tent behind me. I can shut this tent down and then when the lights go off, it's dark and that means I can change my light cycle. If I don't have all that, it's going to be hard for me to grow photoperiodic plants. 

So there's lots of benefits in autoflowers, but we also came out for some people might who want to just do some fast, but photoperiodic, so that's available now too and new stuff will be coming really soon. I was at the breeding facilities, that's amazing, amazing new photoperiodic strains. But since we talk about the Autoflower World Cup, even though we did just release three new strains, one is in the making. And that is what I'm saying, I don't know if I'm going to get myself into trouble, but if you go to Leafly and you check out what was the strain of the year 2024, when this will be airing so that will depend if I will get into trouble or not. So if you do some research, you will find out what that super strain is, which you will see there. 

Silvia: I think this will spark curiosity. 

Sebastian Good: But there might be something coming really soon, but I have to shut up now. 

Silvia: Yeah, I think the curiosity was sparked already and I think our community will definitely get curious about it and we'll check about it. And we're going to ask in stories if they discovered anything new and if we put Sebastian in trouble or not. 

Sebastian Good: No! 

Silvia: Okay. And Sebastian, can you summarize a bit, how did you decide to go into autos? It was again like you started... 

Sebastian Good: So I was into cannabis for like maybe 25-ish years, 26, 27 years, something like that. So when I got my Fast Buds seeds, I did what you do. You plant them, you put them somewhere out in nature, you'll do these kinds of things. Did I really get into it? No, because I was a teenager. I didn't spend my time. I had friends who were getting into growing. I did visit. I did not have cool parents like those friends. Those friends had cool parents. They could just do it at their house. My mom would have kicked my butt, so I had to be careful. 

I did pop a couple of beans here and there. The mother of my girlfriend back then, she also grew a couple of plants, but all back seeds, nothing crazy. So then I went into the media industry. I worked in the media for like 15 years or so, kind of still do. So that path and I am that kind of person, I do something a hundred percent or not at all. And so, I did the media 100%. I still consumed every single day, but I had a plug. I didn't have to worry about that. 

So long story short, I came into contact, moved around and when I came to Spain like 12 or 13 years ago, I just came into contact. There were seeds available everywhere and I said, “Hey, let me just try this.” And that was when autoflowers were starting to get better and better and better. I started them because I didn't have the best setup for it. And so, I could grow them anywhere and it worked out and I had a harvest right away. That's how I really got into all this and fell in love with them. Absolutely.

Chubbs: You could put two different types of flowers, one being an autoflower and one being a photoperiod down. So for me, maybe to the naked eye, I don't think as a consumer, you would be able to tell if one was an autoflower or one was a photoperiod just by consuming it. 

Sebastian Good: You can only tell by genetic testing. 

Chubbs: My brother right here, Sebastian, gets the whole [crosstalk – 00:20:11].

Sebastian Good: Yeah, exactly. You can do the genetic testing, which works sometimes better, sometimes worse, because don't forget, there's not just one ruderalis, so there's just not one gene that's attached to. It's like actually a couple of genes where it's attached and as I said, not every single ruderalis is the same. So from one plant, from one variety to another, it can be a different ruderalis so that makes the testing a bit iffy, but you cannot tell by cannabinoids, by terpenes or any of that. No, you cannot determine if it is an autoflower or not and therefore the effects in my opinion are exactly the same. 

If I have an autoflower or a photoperiod, which is as strong as our Frostbanger, I think 28% almost attested at the Autoflower World Cup, that knocks you out differently, no matter if it's a photoperiod. Depending obviously on the secondary constituents like terpenes, flavonoids and so on, it hits you completely differently than if you go ahead and take an old school strain, which maybe just has 10, 15, 12%. Or you take even something like our CBD one to one where you have 7% CBD, 7% THC, the high is completely different, but no matter if it's photoperiodic or autoflower. 

Chubbs: For me, that's amazing, just the evolution of that, because a lot of people will frown and say, “Oh no, it's an autoflower.” So just to get that out there is I find it very interesting because they're the same at the end of the day, just like food. Food is food. We eat it. It does the same thing regardless. I mean, it all has different nutritional values, just like Sebastian was saying. 

One strain from another is going to differ, whether it be terpene, cannabinoids, whether it be ruderalis, whatever it is. So I think just like with anything in time, the new guy always gets kicked when he's first introduced and stuff, because he’s the new kid on the block. We're not the new kids on the block anymore. The community, the Autoflower World Cup, winning Best Breeder, winning GrowDiaries of the Year, the community decided that we were best breeder of the year. I personally think Autoflowers have come milestones from 15 years. The time that they've really gone mainline and really become more of a in everyday household. See, I don't think they'll replace them in any way or form. I think there's a place for each—

Sebastian Good: There you go.

Chubbs: …depending on where you're at, whether it be climate, whether it be environment, whether it be situational, there's always factors. Like we were talking about when it came to the indoor and outdoor grow, when it comes to growing, whether you're going to do it indoor and outdoor, my personal preference with autoflowers is I like them because they're short grow time. You can go seed to harvest. 95% of the Fast Bud strains will go seed to harvest in less than 90 days. There's a couple out there that'll go a little longer, but that's going to be more your dominant sativa autoflower strains. But with that being said, 90 days, you can get an extra harvest in every year.

Sebastian Good: So I agree 100%. The replacement is the following. Look, we have now customers all over the West Coast and maybe climates that are not just the West Coast, everywhere in the US where the climates are not a hundred percent. Like Northern Oregon, very hard to grow outdoors. Southern Oregon, a lot easier, but Northern Oregon, there are people, they grow fields and fields and fields of autoflowers now because they know they can get a harvest in. So there is a place for everything. 

You cannot take cuts. Of course, you can take cuts of an autoflower. I've done it, but it doesn't do anything because you end up with a lesser harvest because it just goes into flowering, but you cannot take cuts really from autoflowers. So once you have found your unicorn and that is not just you found a strain, you found that one cultivar, that one plant out of them -- They're all nice. They're all good. This is my strain, but oh my God, that one I had there, that was the best I ever grew. You cannot have that with autoflowers and therefore it will never replace it. 

Not just for home growers, but even in industrial or big farming production, there is a place for autoflowers and the autoflowers are getting there. They are having the same THC levels and the same terpene levels as photoperiodic strains. We are on our way. There are autoflowers which tested over 30% like Chubbs' Banana Purple Punch and there are autoflowers which test as high or almost as high in terpene contents. Like for example, one GoodBuddyFlowers one with that Strawberry Gorilla, the highest terpene levels in his resin he made from our Strawberry Gorilla. And I think it was in San Diego in the Farmers Cup. Another time it shows you he was against photoperiodic plants, yet he had higher terpene contents. 

So we are getting there and we are being more recognized. And with autoflowers, you don't have to do a light depth. So if you want to get two harvests in, if you have a good climate, you can run an autoflower run first, where you don't have to worry. You can harvest them in the summer and then you can still run your regular harvest. So they will grow, they will grow, they will grow, they will grow, they will grow, but replacing is impossible. No, it doesn't make sense. We don't want to replace anything. We want to keep genetic variety high so we have all the varieties. There's a plan for land races, absolutely modern hybrids, F1s or FFs and of course, for autoflowers as well. 

Chubbs: 100%.

Sebastian Good: Well, the first year I came very unprepared and it was the first Spannabis after COVID. It was 2022. That's the first time I entered and I was unprepared. I had to harvest, chop early, like no drying, no curing, not the equipment I have nowadays and blah, blah, blah. So I was lucky enough to place that year.

And then the next year, suddenly, the competition was like double. And then the next year, the competition was doubled. And this year, the competition was a similar high number. So crazy numbers, and growers, I know their gear. I know a lot of people who entered no matter with what seed bank they entered. I know their product. And to win against them -- It's sometimes hard to judge your own. So for me, it's clear. Like I come in out of Fast Buds vision. Of course, I submit the new strains, but also which other strains do I have, which turn out the right way? 

Last year, I won with Papaya Cookies and that was my favorite plant out of all the plants I had grown for the cup and I won with it. And this year I won with Z-Up, which was the favorite plant out of all the plants I grew. So it shows me at least I know a little bit about it and it shows me that I also wasn't wrong with the Frostbanger because when I got those bugs from that Frostbanger and I like split them open and it's like this, when you go ahead and you break open a nugget and you break them open, let me see if I find one here somewhere.

You break a nugget like this open and you break it open and look, it's raining trichomes stuff. And if you have a nugget like that, which rains trichomes if you only crack it a little bit, now my whole computer is full of it. No, but if you have a strain like that, you know. The Frostbanger has a great flavor, great taste, everything to it. It's like cookie, creamy, sweet with slightly fruit to it, but what this strain does in perfection is dense, hard nuggets, trichomes and really high THC. So it's cool to win the highest THC out of all of them with that strain, plus with my favorite tasting strain to score investment strain it’s like, yes. 

Silvia: Match made in heaven. 

Sebastian Good: Yeah, I'm honored to have been able to place really multiple years in a row now and—

Silvia: Congratulations.

Sebastian Good: …it's always good to know that you still can judge because for me the smell is a lot easier for me than the taste. First of all, I don't smoke, I vape. So the taste translates slightly differently. Second of all, I'm dabbing like a crazy person lately and that means I put like terpene levels of not like 2% or so of my flowers. No, those things have like 8% or something like that in terpene. So my whole mind is just like not used to flowers anymore, but at least I still made the right decisions.

Silvia: Well, okay. 

Sebastian Good: It's always in breeding. No matter what you breed, selection, selection, selection and selection, that's the first thing. If you don't select, if you don't know how to select, then if you don't do selection right, if you just produce, whatever -- Like I want to produce a hundred thousand seeds and I want to really have them, no. If the plants are not right, you don't breed with them, right? So you need to be able to throw things away in breeding. 

A lot of things go away and the selection doesn't just happen on one side. The selection happens on the male side and on the female side. So these are like secrets about breeding, which aren't like secrets. With anything, it's like that. It doesn't matter if you're breeding cannabis or dogs or pigeons. It doesn't matter. It's all the same in a way. The quality afterwards, after you select it and you really only pick the mommies and the poppies you want to have and as I said, we're always developing, we keep on developing further. Just because we developed the strain and we want to reproduce the strain doesn't mean that we stop there and just like, okay, let's just do it really quick and put it, no. You'll have to do it over and over and over again. Plus you need to have the right protocol afterwards. 

For example, like we harvest an autoflower, chop that down in under 90 days. I don't think I've ever let any autoflower go on 90 days. Like maybe 85, maybe. Outdoors, maybe over 90 days, but never over 90 days personally. 

Chubbs: I've had them go as fast as, well, I want to say that Fast Berry, it'll go basically 50 days.

Sebastian Good: 55 days, Lemon Cherry Cookies. 

Chubbs: Yeah. I mean, I've had them for 50 days. The Sour Jealousy, like I said, that one's a real sativa one. That one, it's one of those 90 days. You're hoping it goes 75, but it's just those last couple weeks of, all right, I got to be patient.

Sebastian Good: I know that feeling, but what I'm saying is like when we breed we don't do that. When we breed they go like a hundred days, 110 days. They go till the plant looks so, so bad, so bad. Go check out the videos about our breeding facilities. Even in the comments, they say, “Oh, those plants look shitty.” I don't care. I know they don't look good, but the seeds, the beans in there, they're ripe. They're on point and that's what counts. It doesn't count how the plant looks. We're throwing all the leftovers away anyway, but the bean in there is good. 

And then once you make sure that you select the beans, then you let the beans ripen even longer afterwards, just to make sure that they're really like at prime. Store them at the right temperatures and then you'll ensure that all of them are high quality. And then you can give like, we do a warranty on our popping. We give a warranty that our seeds sprout because we take care, that we put the best in it and that they are at the best point and that only the best seats really go out. Because all the seeds once we have them here, then the guys sit there and they go through and they really see, okay, this seed is not 100%, then it goes, it goes, it goes. Rather get rid of more and only send the prime out and then you have the best quality and that sets us apart.

Silvia: Wow. That was very complete. I feel like I'm in school with you guys.

Chubbs: I started with autoflowers. Some people say that they're a little more complicated. I find it the opposite. It's not that I debunked it, but I mean, I've grown thousands. So to me, it's always been that, because I started with it, but I do enjoy growing the fast flowering and the photoperiods in the outdoor season. So you get the best of both worlds, but I don't give them any special treatment or anything different. A lot of it's just consistency just like with anything in life. The more time you put into it is what you're going to get out. When you're doing it for a passion or—

I mean, most people that grow, home growers are doing it because they have that passion and that drive. So for me, there's not really much to debunk. I would say if you've never tried to grow them, definitely give it a shot because I set my lights at 18 hours a day, I don't do anything special like I said. I have six different strains growing right now and I do the same thing for all of them. It's not that, oh, this one I'm going to treat differently, no. They all get the same treatment. So I enjoy growing them because of the day-to-day growth.

It's like everyone sees in the videos, you're always checking on your grow, you're always checking your tent and with autoflowers, you can really see that day-to-day growth at certain stages and it's really exciting. The time that you put in and finding out, the lessons that you've learned along the way, whether they be good and you learned from them really quick or they were a bad lesson and you're like, “Okay, I hope I never run into that ever again, but I learned, if I do, this is what I should do.” You know what I mean? I take everything as a learning lesson. 

So for me, every grow, I treat it, it's a new grow. Let's start over. Let's do everything that I know, the baseline, everything that I do. Because I'm so methodical, I do consistency to where, again, I have a certain amount of water I give them at a certain stage and then I up it at a certain stage, so it's very easy. Once you get that down and you find out what works for yourself, the diversity you can have with autoflowers is endless.

Sebastian Good: Let's debunk a few myths. A few myths are that autoflowers are not as potent as photoperiodic plants. We're getting there. Like our potent autos are. And also, don't forget, those people who might tell you, oh, we have over 30%, like yeah, so did we, but that doesn't mean that you always get them with every bean. No, you just select it, one cut of it and that one cut happens to be super high in THC. Vice versa, same thing with terpenes and stuff. We are getting there. We can breed faster as I keep on saying. Like the breeding cycle of an auto is a lot faster and therefore it just goes faster and we are coming closer. We're coming closer. We're coming closer. 

Auto flowers are more finicky. Yes, of course, they're more finicky because they need to be ready in a very short amount of time. And if I treat them like this for the period here, which I haven't even given a damn about in a month or two, then the autoflower would be mad with me. It would go into flowering and from flowering it would just be a smaller plant. You just have to know that. You just have to know. You also wouldn't treat a photoperiod like that when she's in flowering because then she is going to be really mad with you too. 

What I'm doing here is, I keep this one for cuttings, and once I take a cutting of it, I'll prep her again. Right? So it's all a matter of perspective and why is there so much misconception or like I don't want to say hate or so, people not liking autoflowers is because it's not the ones who start new. It's the ones who've been in the game for a long time. And those people, they don't want to change. They do their thing. They find their strengths. They take their cuttings and they want to just go with the old school. They don't even want to look into what other possibilities do we have? And that is really what it is about. 

It's like some people like that team, some people like that team and they start hating on each other. Why do they do that? Because they don't have anything better to do and it's fun to like tease other people. I think it's silly. 

Silvia: Wasting time, yeah.

Sebastian Good: A lot of OGs will tell you by now, no, autoflowers have their place. I talked to so many CEOs and people of really, really, really famous seed banks, all of these people are interested in, “Hey, why don't you make some autos for my genetics? Why don't you do--” because they see the potential is there and why don't they do it themselves? Because they don't know it and either you have to get in and get the knowledge yourself and do it yourself, or you team up with somebody who really knows about it and then you develop some new stuff.

Silvia: Yeah, that's a good approach. I think it's better to join forces because like this, it would be a greater impact. Definitely more positive communication, more community and as you said, maybe not hate, but maybe less like not giving a better place to the autoflowers for the one who haven't tried it yet.

Okay, guys, this was very interesting. It was a very nice conversation. I really thank you for being here. I wanted to ask you for closing, the usual because definitely we have new growers here. What kind of advice do you want to pass along or message? Because they cannot reach you out on Instagram at the moment to ask anything.

Sebastian Good: X, reach out to me if you would. I would have asked Chubbs to answer first. X, @Is420somewhere. That's where you’ll find me now because Instagram doesn't want me anymore and now I am mad with them and I don't want Instagram anymore. 

Silvia: Perfect.

Sebastian Good: Just grow. No matter what you grow, try autos, give them a chance, but if you want to try a photoperiodic, try a photoperiodic plant. Just grow. That's what it is. Give this plant a chance and don't overthink it and learn from your own mistakes. Of course, watch my videos, watch all different people's videos, there are so many cool people. Like Grower Joe of The Basement Grows Show, High Again, Homegrown TV, all these people, they give you so much knowledge, but you will have to try it yourself as well and don't get mad with yourself. Shit will happen. Shit happens to me every single day. You just saw how ugly that plant looked. She's going to have fire flowers. It doesn't matter. Just try to do it. 

And as I said, if you fuck something up, it doesn't matter because we don't always have that time. Like even me, I work in this industry, my tent looks terrible sometimes because I just simply don't have the time because I'm traveling for work. And so, don't beat yourself up over it. Enjoy it. Have fun with the plant because then you will find out that not just consuming it is healing, no, growing it is even more.

Chubbs: Yeah, I have to agree 100% because it's like you said, if you don't grow, it’d never develop into a passion that I never knew I had and I can honestly say it's my Zen now. When I open up my grower and I check out all the plants, I don't know, it's a humbling sense of feeling of fulfillment, seeing something go from seed to harvest. I never grew anything in my life and then when it came to autoflowers, it was -- Like you said, Sebastian, just go ahead and grow. I mean, make every experience a learning one. I have a motto, I keep it stupid, simple. The less is more with autos for me. I don't know. Very rewarding on different levels, 100%.

Sebastian Good: I mean, you said it Chubbs, less is more. Like all I did to those two bushes in the corner is when I saw that they're growing too close to each other, I tied one here, one here, that's it, nothing else. Make sure you don't have too high humidity levels because that fucks up your grow really easy.

Chubbs: Yeah. If you want to find me--

Silvia: One question, do you talk to the plants? Usually it is said that you should talk to your plants. Do you talk a lot to your plants? Do they talk back? 

Chubbs: I do. I'm guilty of that a hundred percent. I'll be talking to my plants and say one of my kids or my wife will come into my grower room, “Who the hell are you talking to?” 

Silvia: My friends here. 

Chubbs: Yeah. My friend here, I'm having a conversation and they don't say words back, but yes, I definitely listen to my plant. Once you grow enough, it's fun watching them because they'll tell you what they need as far as the deficiencies and stuff like that. It's a fun experience, and unless you try, unless you do it, you're not going to experience it. So make everyone a learning lesson and it's fun. It's very humbling. 

Sebastian Good: 100%. My plants talk more to me than I talk to my plants. I used to do that more. I must be honest, like I've been focused now a year and a half, maybe really seriously a year and a half, maybe almost two years now really going out and meeting as many people as possible. And I wanted to keep on meeting people, but I will also spend a little bit more time again here in my garden and really like to focus on that because it's hard. Like that run I won with now in the Autoflower World Cup, I was home less days than I actually was traveling with Fast Buds all over the world while the plants were growing at home. So it's fun, but it's also necessary sometimes to focus on your plants. 

I can tell you what the best thing about it is, is when you go and you have a bad day or something and you open the tent and if they're in flower and you start like grabbing the buds a little bit and you get those terpenes in your nose and you're like, oh, it's just aromatherapy, it changes your life. 

Silvia: I actually noticed this on Chubbs’ morning today that you were very happy today in the morning and I literally imagined you like waking up and going to check your plants and I was like, “Yeah, he had a good wake up call. It was really [inaudible – 00:46:04]. I could feel that in your writing.

Chubbs: Every morning I get my cup of coffee. I'm very, very routine. I won't tell my wife that.

Silvia: You’re an early bird.

Chubbs: She tells me that all the time, but I tell her, no, but every day I get up, I get my cup of coffee. I get a blunt. I go outside to my garden and I check it out. And like Sebastian says, I mean, they talk to you. You sit there, “Hey, good morning,” and they’ll say it back, they'll tell you. It’s beautiful when they're in flower and all the leaves are nice and praying, and you're like, all right. What better way to start a day. If you want, you can find me at Instagram at Chubbs Garden.

My original account Chubbs Skies was disabled. It was taken down, but we're trying to get it back. Or you could find me on GrowDiaries. I have probably 60 different strains on there from 420 Fast Buds that I meticulously do, so you can see week to week growth. If you want to find me on there, it's Chubbs. So definitely never hesitate to reach out and ask me a question.

Sebastian Good: Yeah, make it like all flashy. X, Sebastian stuff. 

Silvia: Yes, I will definitely do that. Great. 

Sebastian Good: Growers, love to all of you out there. Keep on growing, overgrow the governments and of course, never forget that it's 420 somewhere. That's important.